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Re: [TSL] THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 135
"Barb Baker" <mabaker55@optusnet.com.au> on 07/22/2010

I have not received any emails from your site for about a week.  Am I doing 
something wrong please or are you on holidays?

Barbara in sunny Oz
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From: <theshipslist-request@rootsweb.com>
To: <theshipslist@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2010 5:01 PM
Subject: THESHIPSLIST Digest, Vol 5, Issue 135


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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. WARSAW/1844/UK>NYC (Barbara)
>   2. SS Pisa (Natalie McGowan)
>   3. Re: WARSAW/1844/UK>NYC (Marj Kohli)
>   4. Ship Warsaw (Barbara)
>   5. Re: SS Pisa (Sue Swiggum)
>   6. Re: "Demosthenes" Austrlaia 1911? (Janice Doughty)
>   7. Re: "Demosthenes" Austrlaia 1911? (vicki evans)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 07:26:50 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Barbara <barb_braswell20@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [TSL] WARSAW/1844/UK>NYC
> To: THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com
> Message-ID: <747281.17933.qm@web57208.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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> Hi everyone,
>
> I need help in finding out information about the Ship Warsaw which saw 
> service in 1844 from Liverpool to NYC.  I have the manifest and immigrants 
> but would like to know more about the ship's history.  Would anyone on 
> this list know or is there another list that would be more likely to be of 
> help?  I have tried various lists of ships and fleets to no avail.
>
> Many thanks!
> Barbara Braswell
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:06:14 -0700
> From: Natalie McGowan <nj_mcgowan@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [TSL] SS Pisa
> To: <theshipslist@rootsweb.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY150-w53022044B9FBE5B421492EABE0@phx.gbl>
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> Wondering where I can find the passenger list for this ship that left 
> Hamburg, Germany April 1/1912 sailing to Saint John, NB .  My grandfather 
> and his parents were on this ship.   Ivan and Euphemia Soroka,  son Walter 
> from Sokal, Ukraine.   Arrived Canada April 17, 1912.
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 14:36:43 -0400
> From: Marj Kohli <marj@uwaterloo.ca>
> Subject: Re: [TSL] WARSAW/1844/UK>NYC
> To: Barbara <barb_braswell20@yahoo.com>, THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com
> Message-ID: <201007181836.o6IIaoMH020714@jubilation.uwaterloo.ca>
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> Barbara she a ship by this name is sailing in Aug 22, 1840 Times
> shipping news has her going from Mobile to Liverpool. Oct 16, 1840
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> A ship by this name is reported:
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> Londonderry, Oct 13.--The Warsaw, from Sweden to New York, put into
> this river on the 11th inst., having sprung a leak.
>
> Mar 6, 1843 a ship by this name is reported sailing from Charleston for 
> Havre.
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> Sept 1, 1843 sailing from the Clyde on Aug 28 to Boston.
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>  April 1, 1844 she was spoken to by another ship on her way to Havre.
>
> I cannot seem to find an ad for her.
>
> Regards..
>
> Marj
>
> At 10:26 AM 7/18/2010, Barbara wrote:
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>I need help in finding out information about the Ship Warsaw which
>>saw service in 1844 from Liverpool to NYC.  I have the manifest and
>>immigrants but would like to know more about the ship's
>>history.  Would anyone on this list know or is there another list
>>that would be more likely to be of help?  I have tried various lists
>>of ships and fleets to no avail.
>>
>>Many thanks!
>>Barbara Braswell
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:54:10 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Barbara <barb_braswell20@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [TSL] Ship Warsaw
> To: THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com
> Message-ID: <485759.85616.qm@web57201.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
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> Many thanks for everyone's kind help.
>
> Barbara
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> http://westulstergenealogy.com/
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> http://preview.tinyurl.com/yk7gckr
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> http://familytrees.genopro.com/BarbBraswell/Stewart/default.htm
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:46:30 -0300
> From: Sue Swiggum <swig@ns.sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [TSL] SS Pisa
> To: Natalie McGowan <nj_mcgowan@hotmail.com>,
> theshipslist@rootsweb.com
> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.1.20100718164015.03733790@pop1.ns.sympatico.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed
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> Hi Natalie,
>
> Just go to Library and Archives Canada (LAC)
> http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/passenger/index-e.html
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> Go to search and type in PISA and 1912 and click on the ship name for the
> April arrival
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> Next page just click "View Image"  there are 40 pages.   A hint is to 
> click
> on the image to make it larger, however, you'll have to hit the back 
> button
> on your browser to be able to move to another image.
>
> They aren't searchable at the LAC, but they are at Ancestry.com if you 
> have
> a subscription.
>
> Sue
> -- 
> TheShipsList Website
> http://www.theshipslist.com/
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> At 09:06 AM 2010-07-18 -0700, Natalie McGowan wrote:
>>Wondering where I can find the passenger list for this ship that left
>>Hamburg, Germany April 1/1912 sailing to Saint John, NB .  My grandfather
>>and his parents were on this ship.   Ivan and Euphemia Soroka,  son
>>Walter  from Sokal, Ukraine.   Arrived Canada April 17, 1912.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:52:50 +1000
> From: "Janice Doughty" <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au>
> Subject: Re: [TSL] "Demosthenes" Austrlaia 1911?
> To: "Sue Swiggum" <swig@ns.sympatico.ca>, <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com>,
> "Marj Kohli" <marj@uwaterloo.ca>
> Message-ID: <268AE524710048E1AA079F95788F8A86@ADOUGHTY>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
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> Good morning Marj and Listers,
>
> I would love a copy of the write up Marj, that would be great.
>
> I with to thank Marj and everyone else on the List who have so kindly
> responded to my enquiry regarding the "Demosthenes" with great information
> about the ship, the Captain, the crew she carried and also about the 
> Hudson
> family.
>
> I suppose we will never discover why Barbara Irene Hudson's age was give 
> as
> 9 months, when in fact she was 15 months old when the ship sailed from
> England on 1st Sept 1911 and 17 months old when the family disembarked in
> Brisbane on 23rd October 1911, once on board no one would check out a
> child's age, with the ship carrying so many passengers.
>
> One suggestion was that a child under one would have travelled free and
> maybe the family was short of funds at the time.  Another was that the
> Barbara born in 1910 may have died and a second daughter was born and 
> given
> the same name.  However, there was not enough time for Jessie to have
> another child and also my friend Pat, who I am helping to research her
> family, has her mother's birth certificate and she was definitely born on
> 15th May 1910.
>
> Once again thank you for such great information, this is a very helpful 
> List
> and some Listers went to a great deal of time and trouble, especially Sue.
>
> Regards,
> Janice
> Belrose - Sydney
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Marj Kohli" <marj@uwaterloo.ca>
> To: "Sue Swiggum" <swig@ns.sympatico.ca>; "Janice Doughty"
> <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au>; <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [TSL] "Demosthenes" Austrlaia 1911?
>
>
>> Hi Janice,
>>
>> London Times has an item March 8, 1911 about the launches and trial trips
>> of the Demosthenes. Her first sailing was in an ad of June 9, and she was
>> due to sail Aug 31. On Aug 18, the Times reported she was "lying in the
>> royal Albert Docks preparatory to her departure for South Africa and
>> Australia on the 31st of this month." She was 11,300 tons with a
>> displacement of 20,000 tons. It says she would make the trip to Australia
>> in 40 days and carry 100 first, 1,200 third-class passengers. This was
>> some fancy ship. If you would like the write up let me know.
>>
>> Regards..
>>
>> Marj
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 23:26:23 +0000
> From: vicki evans <vickievans909@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TSL] "Demosthenes" Austrlaia 1911?
> To: <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au>, <swig@ns.sympatico.ca>,
> <theshipslist@rootsweb.com>, <marj@uwaterloo.ca>
> Message-ID: <BAY128-W1814A2D78189512FD158E7EEBE0@phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>
> Hi
>
>
>
> Just one thought on the date of birth, I found someone else with my 
> grandmother in their tree and the date of birth they had was about 5 
> months out and had her born in 1911 and not December 13th 1910 which I 
> knew to be true.  Turns out her birth was not registered until May 1911, 
> so the person researching my Grandmother had taken this as her date of 
> birth.  Maybe its a similar thing and the 9 months on the ships manifest 
> is based on when her birth was registered rather than her actual birth.
>
>
>
> Vicki
>
>> From: adoughty01@optusnet.com.au
>> To: swig@ns.sympatico.ca; THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com; marj@uwaterloo.ca
>> Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 08:52:50 +1000
>> Subject: Re: [TSL] "Demosthenes" Austrlaia 1911?
>>
>> Good morning Marj and Listers,
>>
>> I would love a copy of the write up Marj, that would be great.
>>
>> I with to thank Marj and everyone else on the List who have so kindly
>> responded to my enquiry regarding the "Demosthenes" with great 
>> information
>> about the ship, the Captain, the crew she carried and also about the 
>> Hudson
>> family.
>>
>> I suppose we will never discover why Barbara Irene Hudson's age was give 
>> as
>> 9 months, when in fact she was 15 months old when the ship sailed from
>> England on 1st Sept 1911 and 17 months old when the family disembarked in
>> Brisbane on 23rd October 1911, once on board no one would check out a
>> child's age, with the ship carrying so many passengers.
>>
>> One suggestion was that a child under one would have travelled free and
>> maybe the family was short of funds at the time. Another was that the
>> Barbara born in 1910 may have died and a second daughter was born and 
>> given
>> the same name. However, there was not enough time for Jessie to have
>> another child and also my friend Pat, who I am helping to research her
>> family, has her mother's birth certificate and she was definitely born on
>> 15th May 1910.
>>
>> Once again thank you for such great information, this is a very helpful 
>> List
>> and some Listers went to a great deal of time and trouble, especially 
>> Sue.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Janice
>> Belrose - Sydney
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marj Kohli" <marj@uwaterloo.ca>
>> To: "Sue Swiggum" <swig@ns.sympatico.ca>; "Janice Doughty"
>> <adoughty01@optusnet.com.au>; <THESHIPSLIST@rootsweb.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 11:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: [TSL] "Demosthenes" Austrlaia 1911?
>>
>>
>> > Hi Janice,
>> >
>> > London Times has an item March 8, 1911 about the launches and trial 
>> > trips
>> > of the Demosthenes. Her first sailing was in an ad of June 9, and she 
>> > was
>> > due to sail Aug 31. On Aug 18, the Times reported she was "lying in the
>> > royal Albert Docks preparatory to her departure for South Africa and
>> > Australia on the 31st of this month." She was 11,300 tons with a
>> > displacement of 20,000 tons. It says she would make the trip to 
>> > Australia
>> > in 40 days and carry 100 first, 1,200 third-class passengers. This was
>> > some fancy ship. If you would like the write up let me know.
>> >
>> > Regards..
>> >
>> > Marj
>> >
>>
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